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- Proposal text
- The Green Party of Canada will collaborate with Indigenous, provincial and territory counterparts in advocating for free post secondary education for Canadians pursuing accreditation as physicians and nurses.
- Type of Proposal
- Public policy that the party would represent
- Objective / Benefit
- Addresses the critical shortage of nurses and doctors experienced in communities throughout Canada.
- If your proposal replaces an existing policy or policies, which one does it replace?
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- List any supporting evidence for your proposal
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- Does this proposal affect any particular group and what efforts have been made to consult with the group or groups?
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- Jurisdiction: Is this proposal under federal jurisdiction?
- Yes
- Please indicate the language the proposal is being submitted in.
- English
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Conversation with Dr. Rob Robert Murray
I can see subsidizing RN's, Nurse Practitioners and Licensed practical nurses but not MD's. When I started dental practice MD's could still sell their practice [goodwill] and still considered themselves business people similar to U.S. physicians. Now MD's are on salary many have been able to greatly reduce and restrict the size of their practice, number of patients seen, days and hours worked and are gleeful that they are now in charge. When they tell me they need more ($) they expect more to be provided. When a tradesperson, or other professional needs more it usually means they will have to become more efficient, produce more or adjust what they are doing. Medical societies are only interested in wages and benefits. It's not about healthcare and the public good anymore. MD's complaints aren't going to be helped by more money if governments don't fix the structural problems that they have created. We have Conservative provincial premiers that are purposely sabotaging and underfunding our health care system so they can institute private for profit systems that will cost taxpayers many times more than what we are now paying. They are making no serious attempt to fix the problem.
Subsidizing medical education for MD's isn't going to fix the problem. The problem started 35 years ago when politicians learned that when there where fewer doctors they could save on healthcare spending. Class sizes were reduced and now we see the full effect of near-sighted short term thinking and the lack of planning.
I think Britain has similar problems with similar causes. Governments are actively sabotaging the health care system [not doctors], and increasing choke points and friction in the system.
Is the British Government Eroding Primary Care on Purpose? Scott AR, Medscape 2024-02-06: https://www.medscape.co.uk/viewarticle/british-government-eroding-primary-care-purpose-2024a10002m0
I have learned so much about the nature of our current shortage since proposing this motion, Dr. Murray. I think your points are vitally important to the conversation about why we have such a horrid shortage right now. Could you please consider proposing a friendly amendment to incorporate this idea?
Specifically, you explained about:
"MD's complaints aren't going to be helped by more money if governments don't fix the structural problems that they have created. We have Conservative provincial premiers that are purposely sabotaging and underfunding our health care system so they can institute private for profit systems that will cost taxpayers many times more than what we are now paying. They are making no serious attempt to fix the problem.
Subsidizing medical education for MD's isn't going to fix the problem. The problem started 35 years ago when politicians learned that when there where fewer doctors they could save on healthcare spending. Class sizes were reduced and now we see the full effect of near-sighted short term thinking and the lack of planning.
I think Britain has similar problems with similar causes. Governments are actively sabotaging the health care system [not doctors], and increasing choke points and friction in the system."
This is a vitally important piece of the puzzle. What would you ideally like to see as the wording for such a motion? Please feel free to click on "propose amendment", top right, or just throw in some ideas here in this thread.
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